Every producer wants to land massive enterprise accounts, but very few are willing to embrace the daily, unglamorous grind required to get there.

In this episode, Andy Neary sits down with Michael Hart of Dillingham Insurance to discuss how the grueling discipline of college football translates directly into building a $1.6M employee benefits book from scratch. Michael shares the exact advice his college coach gave him – “Hard work and consistency beats talent every day” – and how he applies that exact mindset to his daily sales pipeline.

We break down the critical difference between pitching and listening, how to use the “six degrees of separation” to successfully prospect into the C-Suite , and why intentional collaboration is the ultimate weapon for closing complex, self-funded cases. Michael also shares his elite post-mortem strategy for handling a Broker of Record (BOR) loss without burning bridges , ensuring you learn from the defeat just like a championship team watching game film.

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